This whole “controversy” is so stupid. Like I said before, everyone has a right to be sad (I’m sad too) but all this anger/indignation on behalf of the other members that Dongwan is supposedly wronging is ridiculous. You do realize they’ve been together for over 15 years, don’t you? They…
Another quality reply from carmendove
The person writing the question is testament to the kind of fan behavior that results in groups not being able to last when the members do solo activities. I don’t remember this kind of controversy arising when the Shinhwa members did all their solo activities before their army enlistment.
Where is all this angst from fans coming from anyway? Shinhwa is a brotherhood of 6 members who have been through heaven and hell together. If this ever was going to be a problem, it would have been solved by them together already. So obviously Dongwan’s decision is not a problem. So why are some fans making this such a huge deal? It just makes no sense.
To be honest I wouldn’t even have realised it was a problem because I’m so out of the SHCJ loop. It is such a NON-issue.
Is it true that Dong Wan has quit Shinhwa Broadcast because he wants to concentrate as a musical actor? Such selfish reason. If Andy and Minwoo always prioritize Shinhwa's activities why can't he just do the same. Eric has been putting his solo career on the back burner since their return last year. I really admire Wannie's voice but with this decision on top of him not joining SB before because of his drama and his absence in Running Man due to his personal trip, I question his loyalty :(
Of course we’re all upset that Dongwan won’t be joining SB but having this kind of a response is going too far. At first I wasn’t even going to reply to a statement like this but your comment has so much false information that I couldn’t let it pass.
1) His last drama was a DAILY drama. That means they were filming an entire episode every single day. Despite all the work of memorizing his lines, shooting the episodes and filming SB, he did continue to do both for many months. But then SB changed the format to cooking which takes a lot more time to film and doing both was starting to take a toll on his health so it made sense that he had to step away from SB.
2) He was NOT on vacation during Running Man filming. He was already back in Korea when they were shooting but he was at his army reserves training. Even after finishing their army service, all Korean males have to go back once a year and do a few days of reserve training. It’s Running Man’s fault for not giving him enough notice so he could adjust his schedule and choose another date for his training.
3) Why is it wrong for him to want to focus on his musical? He’s playing the lead role and the success of the entire production is on his shoulders. If he slacks off or doesn’t do well, that will reflect badly on not only him but also Shinhwa as a group. Maybe you’re not aware of what’s going on in Korea right now but there is a HUGE backlash against idol actors. Netizens are furious at them for not putting effort into their acting and also snatching up musical roles over more experienced musical actors. Look at what happened to Key of SHINee because he missed one show of his musical due to his group’s promotions. If netizens/reporters found out Dongwan wasn’t putting everything into his musical because of a variety show, do you have any idea what kind of articles/comments would be written about him? And if there’s bad press about Dongwan, that spills over onto Shinhwa too.
4) Eric’s decision to put his solo career on the backburner has many reasons and SB is only one of them. His responsibilities as Shinhwa Company’s CEO take a lot of time and he said he wants to make sure ShinCom is stable before he takes on other activities. Also, when Eric was the member with the busiest schedule, he missed activities too. However the difference is that in the past they always came together for album promotions but were free to do what they wanted during the rest of the year. That way it was easier for them to arrange their schedules so their solo careers wouldn’t interfere with Shinhwa activities. Now because of SB filming nearly all year long, it’s hard to keep that balance. They either have to not do any solo activities at all or squeeze them in during times when SB is not filming, like Minwoo did with Dancing 9. In fact, there are rumors that Minwoo’s show was the reason SB was delayed until November instead of starting in Oct like it was originally planned.
5) Dongwan does prioritize Shinhwa activities when it’s time to promote as a group. When the 11th album came out, he was right there with them in all the performances and all the variety shows. And when the 12th album comes out in a few months, I know he will do the same again. In fact, that’s why he chose a musical that will end right around the time they’ll be doing the final preparations for the 12th album and getting ready to start promotions. If he only cared about himself and was “selfish”, he would have picked a movie or tv show and not cared about it overlapping with their group promotions. But instead he chose to do a musical which has a limited run and will be done in time for him to put all his effort into Shinhwa activities.
Finally, if something this small and trivial makes you question his loyalty then you must not know much about Shinhwa’s history. After everything they’ve been through and all the sacrifices they’ve made for each other (and the group), this is what makes you doubt his loyalty? It’s okay to be upset and disappointed with Dongwan’s decision but having a reaction like this anon is going too far.
Like Minwoo said last year, “Personally he [Dongwan] is an ambitious person but as a Shinhwa member he is a friend who is really considerate. Even if he stands by the side of the stage, he is really faithful to his duties. Instead of leading, being in a supporting role is even more impressive.” (credit: malpabo)
Q9: If the members were to go on a 2-days/1-night trip together, what will be the plan???
ERIC To Hyesung’s place. I’m very curious about his daily life, and if he eats well. MINWOO We’ll sail to a deserted island on a raft. At night we will hug each other to sleep on the beach…. DONGWAN We’ll all ride our motorcyvles to Cheonggyecheon Stream, soak our feet in the water, eating dried squid as we drink beer, and chat through the night. I’ll be in charge of taking photographs!!!
HYESUNG 2 days & 1 night is a little short, so we can’t go anywhere too far. To somewhere like Jeju Island, eat some fish, drink some soju and chat…. ….I really want to go…. JUNJIN Go on a bicycle road trip across the whole country~ And we’ll sleep in a tent for 6…!
ANDY We’ll take a plane to the US. We’ll just fly there and fly back. Kekeke
Credits: Source: Shinhwa10th.com + Shinhwabiz Eng trans: midnightgirl13
how come shinhwa does not have the rights for the name shinhwa
I’ll try to answer this the best I can but a lot of information about Shinhwa’s legal issues is unknown. They hardly ever talk to the press about this stuff and when they do, they only give vague details.
The rights to the name Shinhwa were first owned by SM Entertainment because they formed the group. When Shinhwa refused to renew their contracts with SM in 2003, SM couldn’t stop them from leaving because they had no legal leverage. So instead, SM filed an injunction claiming they couldn’t use the name Shinhwa for any future group activities because the rights to that name belonged to SM. We don’t know exactly what happened after this but basically, Eric went into loooong negotiations with SM before it could turn into a full-blown lawsuit. In the end, Eric and SM reached a deal where Shinhwa was allowed to keep using their name but had to pay royalities to SM every time they performed a song that was produced under SM. We don’t know how much they have to pay per song or how long they have to keep paying these royalties. In addition, part of the deal required them to pay a HUGE sum of money to SM to buy out the rights to the name Shinhwa. The company they were moving to, Good Entertainment, was still a new company so they didn’t have the funds to pay off SM. Fans know Eric used his own personal savings towards the negotiations/buyout but we don’t know exactly what he paid for. We know he was broke afterwards and had to live with Minwoo for a while until he could get back on his feet. But we also know he didn’t personally get the rights to the name, so there’s a lot of vagueness about exactly what happened during those negotiations with SM.
Eventually, Good Entertainment was dissolved after Shinhwa went to the army. I think they filed for bankruptcy? During this time, the rights to the Shinhwa name somehow transferred to Open World Entertainment but (again) we have no idea how or why. Maybe OW snatched up the rights when GE’s assets were sold off?
When Shinhwa was ready to make their comeback in 2012 after their army service, they decided to create their own company (Shinhwa Company) rather than signing a group contract with some other company. It was when articles about the formation of Shinhwa Company were published, that we found out the rights to the Shinhwa trademark were now with Open World. Eric and Minwoo had long negotiations with the company and were eventually given permission to use the Shinhwa name. However, part of the deal was that OW would be given exclusive rights to manage all their overseas acitivities and promotions. OW let them use the Shinhwa name but the rights for the trademark stayed with the OW CEO. (source1) (source2)
After the OW CEO was sent to jail in 2013, there were some documents floating around twitter that showed the rights had transferred to some other company called 준Media (Jun/Joon Media). @malpabo tried to translate the legal documents filed by Shinhwa Company but she wasn’t able to understand some of the complicated legal jargon so some of the details are unclear.
With ShinCom as the creditor, Jun/Joon Media as debtor, and a claim of 100 million won. provisional attachment: http://t.co/cYkNqhF4DG
So apparently, Eric may be trying to buy back the rights since Shinhwa Company filed a “provisional attachment” for the Shinhwa trademark in Feb 2013. According to wikipedia: “A provisional attachment is a judicial measure available to anyone who has a monetary claim to lock down certain assets to keep the debtor from selling or giving them away until the court renders a judgment on the merit.” That sounds like Shinhwa Company is trying to prevent J.Media from selling or transferring the Shinhwa trademark while some kind of legal proceeds are going on.
Sorry for the long-winded answer but there are a LOT of gaps in our knowledge about exactly what happened during past (and current) legal proceedings related to the Shinhwa trademark. I did the best I could based on what I know but I don’t claim that what I’ve written is definitely true. There may be details we as fans don’t know anything about so take it all with a grain of salt…